Great article! This really consolidates all the tidbits known about PCOS in the bioenergetic space. Many women I know from the forum have found solace in applying anti-stress and anti-estrogenic strategies to the condition. It seems that PCOS is a metabolic disorder that can largely be managed by treating the system holistically.
It would be even more interesting to see a similar piece on Endometriosis, which I believe is often overlooked. It is estimated that over half of "unexplained infertility" cases are caused by endometriosis, which, unlike PCOS, seems to be far more complicated to address systemically. From the research available, the endometrial lesions appear to have a mind of their own, secreting estrogen and rendering the uterus progesterone-resistant. This process suffocates the embryo each cycle, preventing the possibility of conception.
There are many cases where women have recovered from their endometriosis-like symptoms by supporting energy balance daily for years, maintaining a robust thyroid, liver, and digestive processes, and fully ameliorating and excreting excess estrogen. Yet, they still suffer from infertility due to the physical endometrial lesions, leaving them with only one option: outsourcing their health to an endometriosis excision specialist. If only there were an alternative to the invasive means of slicing and dicing our poor women and prospective mothers!
Excellent Article! I will be linking to it often. Sometimes it's difficult to piece all Rays stuff together-but this is so easy to understand. Thank You
This is a great synthesis of information and I have come to similar understandings after reading a lot of what Ray and Georgi have said regarding PCOS. However, I think the interplay between Team A and B as you have defined them is a lot more complex than is given credit here. Speaking from experience, I feel I have had had both of these systems passing the control back and forth and also if you isolate treatment to any one of these factors without simultaneously working on the others it can leave you feeling much worse. I totally get the purpose here was to provide a brief summary and you aren't recommending isolated treatment but its really easy to hyper-focus on any one of these things (e.g., thyroid, progesterone, nutrients). While progesterone supplementation can be incredible, it can also have HUGELY negative effects at first in women by knocking estrogen into the bloodstream (what Kitty calls "estrogen kickback") and if your thyroid/gut/liver function is not up to scratch you will feel awful. I learned this the hard way and haven't really been able to find relief from PCOS symptoms yet as I am still trying to figure out how to balance the dance...
Thanks and yes as you say the point of this article was to explain a proposed theory on what is behind PCOS.
Most people think its just high androgens and try to lower them. I try to illustrate that hyperactive adrenals and pituitary function are a result of poor thyroid, liver and ovarian function. A secondary point of the article was explaining how some things like progesterone can be helpful, but "what to do for PCOS" wasn't the point of this specific piece.
Point taken. I suppose what I was trying to point out myself is that someone could take your information as suggestions on how to manage PCOS under the proposed theory, as I have done, and end up in a worse place if they don't understand the nuance in how these systems are interconnected. Meanwhile the drugs given to lower androgens annoyingly do bring about relief of some symptoms (e.g., spironolactone and hair growth/acne) and therefore perpetuate the misunderstanding.
Great article! This really consolidates all the tidbits known about PCOS in the bioenergetic space. Many women I know from the forum have found solace in applying anti-stress and anti-estrogenic strategies to the condition. It seems that PCOS is a metabolic disorder that can largely be managed by treating the system holistically.
It would be even more interesting to see a similar piece on Endometriosis, which I believe is often overlooked. It is estimated that over half of "unexplained infertility" cases are caused by endometriosis, which, unlike PCOS, seems to be far more complicated to address systemically. From the research available, the endometrial lesions appear to have a mind of their own, secreting estrogen and rendering the uterus progesterone-resistant. This process suffocates the embryo each cycle, preventing the possibility of conception.
There are many cases where women have recovered from their endometriosis-like symptoms by supporting energy balance daily for years, maintaining a robust thyroid, liver, and digestive processes, and fully ameliorating and excreting excess estrogen. Yet, they still suffer from infertility due to the physical endometrial lesions, leaving them with only one option: outsourcing their health to an endometriosis excision specialist. If only there were an alternative to the invasive means of slicing and dicing our poor women and prospective mothers!
I’ve heard of some women healing their endo with parasite cleanses
Good idea to take both oral pregnenalone and topical progesterone in luteal? Any adverse effects of pregnenone?
Excellent Article! I will be linking to it often. Sometimes it's difficult to piece all Rays stuff together-but this is so easy to understand. Thank You
Thank you! Glad you liked it
This is a great synthesis of information and I have come to similar understandings after reading a lot of what Ray and Georgi have said regarding PCOS. However, I think the interplay between Team A and B as you have defined them is a lot more complex than is given credit here. Speaking from experience, I feel I have had had both of these systems passing the control back and forth and also if you isolate treatment to any one of these factors without simultaneously working on the others it can leave you feeling much worse. I totally get the purpose here was to provide a brief summary and you aren't recommending isolated treatment but its really easy to hyper-focus on any one of these things (e.g., thyroid, progesterone, nutrients). While progesterone supplementation can be incredible, it can also have HUGELY negative effects at first in women by knocking estrogen into the bloodstream (what Kitty calls "estrogen kickback") and if your thyroid/gut/liver function is not up to scratch you will feel awful. I learned this the hard way and haven't really been able to find relief from PCOS symptoms yet as I am still trying to figure out how to balance the dance...
Thanks and yes as you say the point of this article was to explain a proposed theory on what is behind PCOS.
Most people think its just high androgens and try to lower them. I try to illustrate that hyperactive adrenals and pituitary function are a result of poor thyroid, liver and ovarian function. A secondary point of the article was explaining how some things like progesterone can be helpful, but "what to do for PCOS" wasn't the point of this specific piece.
Point taken. I suppose what I was trying to point out myself is that someone could take your information as suggestions on how to manage PCOS under the proposed theory, as I have done, and end up in a worse place if they don't understand the nuance in how these systems are interconnected. Meanwhile the drugs given to lower androgens annoyingly do bring about relief of some symptoms (e.g., spironolactone and hair growth/acne) and therefore perpetuate the misunderstanding.